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How about a nice game of Chess?
What's it's cup speed p. How much memory does it have
Almost an episode of objectivity!
Spot the mathematically inclined computer geek. The number he picked to test the Countdown game, 937, is of course a prime number. Right off the top of his head! (Which doesn't mean it's not amenable to a Countdown-style breakdown, but I imagine it is harder than one which is composite to begin with.)
Can it play DooM?
What sort of algorithm was it running when doing the Countdown problem ? Was it intelligent or brute force ?
A comparison with a modern PC (or smartphone) using the same algorithm would be interesting
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
What language are these programs written in? Is it just Assembly or some high level language?
Would love to know more technical details of the implementation, instruction set, speed, storage capacity, how it communicates with the terminal. And where did this machine come from? What was it used for before the museum?
What possessed the programmer to not include a wargames-esque intro into his tic-tac-toe game?
I love this channel but this stuff about old computers is really boring :/
I didn't expect to be so fascinated by this video.
The hands on approach required to operate these computers is so fascinating. Just how these fundamental stages of computing have lead to what we all know and use today is incredible to me. Mr. Thackray does an excellent job of explaining what is happening in layman's terms.
Funny thing is, even though my AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition (3.4 Ghz) can run fast, it still takes about 5-6 minutes to load up Grand Theft Auto 5…. or other BIG +30 Gigabyte Games, so even something like this isn't all that bad for loading up programs for me….
Cheers! I was born in 1966.
this is a quality computerphile vid
How disappointing. Nothing about the technology or architecture of the macine…
0:47 The sounds though!!!!!!!!!!
I bet it still runs doom on it
Great to see this. My first personal computer! While my class-mates at University (Queen Elizabeth College, Univ. London) were sending off decks of punched cards I was doing stuff interactively with the (already ancient) 903. Algol, Fortan and SIR assembler. The Algol & Fortan were both two pass compilers with two tapes about 4 inches thick to read-in plus an intermediate stage output from the punch to seed in for the pass two. On Tuesdays the university accountant took the machine all-day to run the university payroll etc. (written in Algol).
He looks very proud of himself.
Why the hell don't paper tape machines have takeup reels?!!!Also, why are comments disabled on my phone?
Its great that you guys are keeping those wonderful alive.
"Nice big even numbers."3Flawless.
I'd love to see a video of the internals of the computer
I doubt today's kids will know what you mean by 'copy pasting to a CD' XD
What's that beautyful IBM thing on the wall?
"I explain to those kids: it's exactly like copy-pasting a file to cd."
kids: "what's a cd?"
Nerds are alright, but they should keep up with their times….
So many errors, I could poke holes into the programming…
That appears to be one of those new-fangled "optical" paper-tape readers 🙂 The ASR-33 was a whole lot more noisy
Egads! I was programming and running a CDC3600 in 1966. And now what I was working with is in a freaking museum.
Time flies when you're having fun.
Love this channel.Hate the camera man.
What was this computer actually used for back in 1966?
Would have liked a little more hard info. Most interesting fact I learned was that the British call Tic Tac Toe Naughts & Crosses!
My dad was an engineer at Elliott Automation. There is a fair chance he was involved with making that machine. It's the first time I have seen a movie of one.
I have to say, this is hella more advanced than I thought it would be. When told about extremely old computers, you're always told of the computers that were the size of huge buildings. For it's time, I'm quite impressed that this isn't much bigger than a normal sized computer today.
I wonder if software that does what the number program could do. I'd have fun messing around with something like that.
As a Kid i remember being shown punchcards the a hospital used in their comp btw i'm 52 the Hospital was Kansas City University Medical center i was maybe 7 years old
So I have to ask, how much more powerful would NASA's entire computing power be at around this time? People always say that those damn annoying cards which play music when you open them have more computing power, but is this true? And how much code could their computers run? :3
but can it run crisis?
So, how many times has a tape been accidentally ripped, and had to be re-printed?
Ohh… So Noughts and Crosses means Tic Tac Toe Took me a minute.
Yea that's cool and all, but can it run Crysis?
Would you like to play a game?
This is fucking awesome!
What programming language is this programmed with?
How about ENIAC next?
5:24 "reset the machine just like your mom" Kappa
The assembly language for the Elliot 903 was taught as part of the ICL-sponsored Computer Education in Schools scheme in the early 1970s.
Pretty interesting machine, glad to see it in use rather than cooped up behind glass gathering dust!!
We got an Elliot 803 in my school in about 1975.
I played this back in the early 1970s at University of Manchester open day. I didn't win either but was determined. But then it really was state of the art stuff! Now I'm a software engineer 🙂
Still faster than TIS-100
But can it run fallout 4?
Mmm loud, needs a big van and yet it seems like quite a nifty thing.
Thumbs up to all the Elliotts out there 😀
You misspelled center.
I'm really glad people are preserving the history of computing, it's fascinating, and thanks for the great vid!!!
Um the DEC VT220 display terminal did not exist when your dodgy computer existed. There is more computing power in that terminal than in the Elliot.
But can it run crysis?
Can it run Crysis?
I wonder where you can get paper tape these days?
You gave it a prime number.
Wow. those gradual displaying of letters and random beeps by super hi-tech equipments featured in movies must be originated from this type of machine…
The VT220 is a nice terminal but far too computery for my tastes. The VT102 is a much more fun dumb terminal experience.
If it can read tape that fast, SURELY it can do better than 110 baud.
Interesting to see one of those again, it being the first computer I actually got to run hands-on, back around 1968-ish. What did surprise me was the condition of the console, which looked like it had never really been used. Did they somehow get hold of one that had never left the warehouse? Note the top row of 36 switches which was used to set up the initial jump to the start of your program (which might be an interpreter or compiler), one switch for each bit of the 36 bit word. In test mode you could even set up an entire program, literally bit by bit, if you had the patience.
I have a simulator somewhere (found on the web and rewritten) of the hardware plus Algol60 compiler. Does anyone have a memory image of the SIR assembler?
This is very similar if not the same computer the first version of oregon trail was coded on, it would be so cool to see you guys get ahold of a copy.
I had a moment and looked up the 903 – I recall my college lecturer saying he used to use a paperclip to issue command's could that be true? (that was late 80s when I was at college)
The Elliott 903 was one of the first computers I learned to program, back in 1970. Our school obtained permission to use one at a local technical college in Rochester, Kent. Ours also had a huge quad 9 track tape deck and a very noisy line printer. I used Algol 60 on the machine and my favourite achievement was a program that output a tape to draw lissajous figures on a plotter.
How does it work? …..???
the electric motor in that computer is larger than some starters ive seen on cars.
so the name of the protagonist in Mr. Robot is basically a tribute to an older machine?
This is the first machine I learned to program in 1972.
That computer has seen many days my friend. Keep it in good working order!
My soloq teammates' favorite!
If it can play songs like that, it's just screaming to have "Never Gonna Give You Up" on a paper tape roll played on it.You haven't Rick Roll'd someone until you've done it with an Elliot 903 from 1966.
What's a CD?
but the best opening move in noughts and crosses is the corner 🙁
in my experience you get a beeping noise from just having a memory component disconnected, not exactly horrendously broken
What language was used to write those programs? How much RAM does it have/how many bytes can a program be for it?Are the programs on the tapes precompiled, or are they written in an interpreted language?
Are there any working 905s or 920Cs? Those were the first British IC-based computers (from what I understand).
I remember reading about people writing programs which would play music on the IBM 1401's printer. Since the computer could control the printer directly in software it was actually quite easy if you knew how the printer worked.
Computer games are pretty much as old as computers. Programmers probably were making it play music and other silliness.
What is its CPU Speed? KIPS?
In TTT best opening move is in a corner.
You didn't specify exactly what was the program's task in the exercise after TTT.
My late farther leaned to program on 803 and 903 he then went to work for NCR as a operator in 1971 at 1000 North Circular Road , we went on to become a systems designer and consultant
remember my Cyrix 486 made a similar processing sound when I was listening to AM radio while it was on. I remember it well, I'd listen to the sounds for hours. lol.
At nearly the same time when the first model of PDP-8 came out
My grandfather Andrew & my grandmother Dina St Johnston worked in making that. At Elliot Brothers
Just think, machines like the space shuttle, the SR71 and a 747 were all brought about by computers just like this. Maybe even that machine itself.
My first job in 1967 was for Elliott Automation, Frimley working on the FACE system for the Army, based on an Elliott 920B. It was an 18 bit machine with 8k of core store. I remember the same console which you have in your video. Some of engineers were brilliant at keying in programs using the control box, including solving puzzles and playing tunes on the speaker in the control box as you demonstrated. The system could compute the gunnery solution for a battery of 8 guns in only a few seconds. You say the machine was slow, which it was, but the programming (in SIR) was tight, efficient and accurate and was stored in 8k of core. Compare this with the bloatware in modern computers!
So at 2:40 we can see the 1-9 grid with 1 at the top left, like a phone, but then at 3:30 we can see the numberpad on the keyboard with the 1 at the bottom left, very confusing for little kids!
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